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WHY DO WE OPPOSE MORMONISM?

One of the most frequent questions we are asked is, “Why do you do this? Why do you oppose Mormonism? Why do you have this your anti-Mormon web page? Why do you hate Mormons?”

Truth Can Hurt, Even When Given In Love, As Softly As Possible

We know that the truth can hurt and be upsetting, even when given as softly as possible. But it is our Christian duty, in love, to share with you what we know. If your house was on fire wouldn’t you want us pounding at the door. The articles on our web page are like this, to alert you to what the Mormon church is not likely to tell you at their open houses, pageants or when their missionaries come to your home. Some might say we share information like this because we hate Mormons. This is not correct. While we strongly believe that Mormons have every right to their beliefs, we are concerned that people are making decisions about it without all the necessary information. As Christians there are many teachings of this church, such as family, moral values and hard work, we can applaud. We have nothing but warm regard for most of the Mormon people; they make good neighbors, citizens, friends and co-workers. But it is as if their house (any yours) were on fire and we must warn them and you. In reality it is worst than if your house is on fire. Where you will spend eternity is at stake.

We Do Support The Right Of Mormons To Have Their Own Beliefs

We do support the right of Mormons (and non- Mormons) to have their own belief system. But we do take issue with any organization that claims to be:

(1) the only true church, when it isn’t;
(2) a Christian organization, when it isn’t;
(3) and it attacks my Christian beliefs.

If a person’s beliefs are strong and meaningful enough, he or she would want to share them with others. (I am sure this is why many Mormon missionaries serve.) Couple this with God’s commandments that we should tell others (Matthew 28:19,20; 1 Peter 3:15) and we have an indisputable injunction to do this. Also in 2 Timothy 4:2-3 and Hebrews 5:14, we are told to “preach the Word”, to reprove and rebuke, and discern good from evil.

Mormonisn Has Attacked My Beliefs

The Mormon church in one of its scriptures claims to be the only true church on the face of the whole earth (Doctrine & Covenants 1:30). Mormonism from the alleged first vision to the present time has attacked the doctrines of classical Christianity. The Pearl of Great Price, under Joseph Smith – History 1:19, says all other churches are wrong and professors of the creeds are corrupt.

I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong…all their creeds were an abomination in his sight, that those professors were all corrupt… (There is more on this under “Joseph Smith’s First Vision.” article D-5 of the web page)

I am offended by this statement. I don’t believe Jesus Christ said this. The Book of Mormon says in 1 Nephi 13:26-28, that the Bible has many “plain and precious” parts taken out of it. 1 Nephi 14:10 condemns all churches as being of the devil. It says:

Behold, there are save two churches only, the one is the church of the Lamb of God and the other is the church of the devil… (1 Nephi 14:10)

I am offended by this statement. The Mormon Church claims to be the “church of the Lamb of God” and the only one led by God. The Mormon monthly magazine, Ensign, December 1984, pages 8-9, in an article “The Early Signs of the Apostasy” by Kent P. Jackson, says, starting in the second paragraph:

…the church of the Savior and his Apostles…came to an end within a century after its formation. The doctrines which its inspired leaders taught were corrupted and changed by others…none of the Christian systems that existed after those developments, though they did some good things, enjoyed divine endorsement as the Lord’s own church…To say that Satan sits in the place of god in Christianity … is not to say that all that is in it is satanic.

Page 9 of the same article, says that Satan sits at the head of the Christian churches:

But God is not at its head, making that church – following the appearance in it of Satan – no longer the church of God. To say that Satan sits in the place of God in Christianity after the time of the apostles is not to say that all that is in it is Satanic.

Many Parts Of Mormon Doctrine Are Not Christian

While there are some teachings of the Mormon church I can embrace, too many parts of Mormon doctrine are not Christian. The Mormon God the Father, who has a body of flesh and bones, is only one of a countless number of gods who was once a man, died and was resurrected. He had a mother and father and grandparents ad infinitum. He is married and procreates all the spirits of the people who have been and will be born on this earth. The Mormon Jesus was not always God, but was the first-born spirit offspring of God, and the only begotten Son of God in the flesh. He is the spirit brother of Lucifer. Mormonism once taught that Mary, the Mother of Jesus Christ, became pregnant with Jesus by her Heavenly Father, the Mormon God, in the same literal way a husband and wife procreate children. In the same way we were conceived by our parents. Many Mormons don’t want to believe this doctrine, so we urge all to see the Family Home Evening manual, copyrighted 1972, pages 125, 126, lesson 27 “Whom Say Ye That I Am?” Other references are found in Gospel Principes, Chapter 2, first two paragraphs and all of chapter 47 (1997 edtion). This last reference can be found on a Mormon web page at http://www.lds.org/library/gos_pri/gos_pri.html There is more on these teachings of the Mormons church, with references, in article B-2.

Unique Mormon Doctrine Not Openly Taught

I believe the Mormon church’s teaching program is not open and honest (there is more on this under “What The Mormons Don’t Say” article B-8). If the Mormon missionaries clearly taught the doctrines outlined above and they were easily available at open houses and pageants, people like myself would not need to have a web pages. But then very few people would join the Mormon Church. LDS say they do not teach the “deep doctrine” because people need “milk” first. Would you accept as legal tender a $20 bill that had a picture of Mickey Mouse on it? Of course not. Counterfeiters make their bills to look like the real thing. So do counterfeit religions.

In Summary

So “Why do we speak against Mormonism?” We do it because we must defend our beliefs from the attacks of the Mormon Church and tell people, as commanded by God, about the biblical Jesus Christ and his gospel. See article B-2 for a side by side comparison of what the Mormon church teaches compared to what the Bible says.

Jude 1:3 tells me to “…earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.”

John Farkas Berean Christian Ministries, P.O. Box 1091, Webster, N.Y. 14580

http://www.bcmmin.org/whydoit.html

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10 Comments

  1. Thanks for the interest Damon. That happens if the house isn’t on fire but you keep banging on the door regardless? 🙂

    I’m not going to stir up anger here. I just wanted to clarify a couple of things. The Church of the Lamb includes all who truly follow the Lamb of God, regardless of which denomination they belong to. The Church of the devil includes all who fight against God and the Lamb. As I understand it, this doesn’t imply any specific denominations at all, only those who fight against Christ.

    As for the statement that the Churches are “wrong”–that doesn’t mean that other churches are completely false and have no truth. We believe most Christian churches have much truth–it’s just that they’re wrong. And it’s not the Christians themselves or the denominations that are an “abomination”, but the creeds which are equated with God’s Holy Word, or scripture. Creeds that are given equal authority to scripture are indeed an “abomination”, and professors who teach that those creeds are on par with holy scripture are “corrupt”.

    Last thing, you make an implication that we hold back our doctrines to the newcomer and hide some “deeper” doctrines. I’ll contend that this is not true at all. Since Mormonism has many concrete doctrines that every member must believe if they wish to consider themselves orthodox members of the church, I will have to assume that the the deeper Mormon doctrine that you are complaining about would involve matters of a more esoteric nature. Things like, did chaos come before God, or God before chaos? Does God make eternal law or is He controlled by eternal law? etc. etc.

    If it is questions of this nature that you are referring to, then my question is, why not simply accept the definition that we’ve already given these “doctrines.” IE: That they are not “doctrine” at all.

    Mormons accept as doctrine those things that have been clearly, and unequivocally revealed and which have been officially accepted and endorsed by the Church in general conference, and those alone.

    So I must contend that the real obstacle in the conversations between evangelicals and Mormons is that the evangelicals insist on presenting ill-defined theories and speculations as if they were defining doctrines of our church.

    Certainly evangelicals can mention such theories, but they should only mention such theories in the context of “some members believe” or “some members have believed”. They should never use “Mormons believe” for any belief that isn’t actually official doctrine.

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    Hi CC, Thanks for your response. I like it when you comment because I get to unravel your public image control spin for the readers here. And they get to witness the political savvy employed by Mormons (at least good temple Mormons) to APPEAR Christian.

    I will spend some time tonight or tomorrow to respond.

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  3. I think it’s very clever of you to say that I’m trying to spin my religion or do image control when I simply state things as they truly are. I suppose that because you’ve already made up your mind how false and terrible “Mormonism” is you’ll always see anything any Mormon says in all honesty through this filter. Such seems to be the case here.

    I trust that most rational people will realize that if the case against Mormonism was is strong, why would the “anti-Mormons” need to lie and distort the beliefs of the Church. I know now that at the top are those who make money, and they will say or do just about anything. And there are at the bottom some sincere individuals who seeing the falsehoods presented by anti-Mormons, want to rescue their Mormon brothers and sisters. I sincerely believe you fall into the latter category, and that you’re truly trying to “rescue” us because you care.

    But from my perspective, you have been fed so much slanted information by those “ministries” that make a living misrepresenting Mormonism that you actually now believe all of what they say instead of trusting what we say about what we actually believe ourselves and who we really are. Then when I, a regular mainstream Mormon come along and try to clarify what the truth of the matter is, you accuse me of spinning something, as if the truth can’t stand for itself if the truth is really known. I guess we have different ideas of who is really being deceived.

  4. PS: I’m not trying to “appear” any way other that what I really am and really believe. I’ve obviously found a lot of goodness from my faith, or I wouldn’t still be and Latter-day Saint Christian. I’ve found so much peace and joy. However, I’m also realistic and recognize that the church’s claims may seem utterly fantastic, even absurd to the uninitiated. I just want it to have a fair hearing. That’s all.

  5. PS: I’m not trying to “appear” any way other than what I really am and really believe. I’ve obviously found a lot of goodness from my faith, or I wouldn’t still be a Latter-day Saint Christian, however unorthodox we are. I’ve found so much light and truth, peace and joy. However, I’m also realistic and recognize that the church’s claims may seem utterly fantastic, even absurd to the uninitiated. I just want it to have a fair hearing. That’s all. Thanks for hearing me out.

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    Thanks again CC. This is my problem, you are so deceived that you will use “occultic terms” such as “esoteric” and “uninitiated” in your defense of Mormonism, and you cannot even see that Mormonism is purely occultic.

    It is a common practice among occult groups to practice duplicity employing “groups within groups” and “secrets within secrets.”. A system of ESOTERIC and EXOTERIC terms and ideas, which mean one thing to the “uninitiated” unlearned and unsuspecting,,,,,, and quit another to the “initiated”, “adept” or “enlightened ones”.

    You say you get goodness and “light and truth, peace and joy” out of being a LDS. I find it very disturbing that you put light first in your list. Freemasonry and other occult groups claims to be the light of truth. They even idolize Lucifer as being the “light bearer“. And since you and other “temple Mormons” have bought hook line and sinker the Luciferian (occult) “secret doctrine” of the deification (exaltation in Mormon terms) of man (the light, via the light bringer) per Gen. 3:22

    Yes,,,,, we have quit a different opinion about who is deceived. Mormons and all cults claim to be the restored church, but Jesus said he would build his church and the gates of hell shall not prevail over them. And surely His church never needed to be restored. AND IF HYPOTHETICALLY IT DID. Which church claiming to be the restored church is the real restored church?

    Biblical Christianity is distinct among all religions. C.S. Lewis and other Christian theologians have said “there is two religions in the world, Christianity: which says that God the Creator became a man to die for men’s sins and Paganism: (or Hinduism) which says that man has within himself the power to overcome sin and become a God or at least a god with a small g.” (my loose quote)

    Mormon doctrine is not “orthodox” as you admit. And in fact is more in line with the teachings of the occult, new age movement, and pantheistic religions of the world than they are with biblical Christianity. Your own personal duplicity is exampled in your saying that there are certain beliefs that one has to believe to be considered orthodox Mormon, yet you will still claim to be Christian when you do not believe what has historically been orthodox Christian doctrine. Your like a communist who is a stock broker. AN IMPOSSIBILTY. A person who makes his living off of capitalism could not be considered a real Communist. To be a communist one must do as a communist does. To be a Christian one must believe orthodox Christian doctrine, which history shows is NOT what the Mormon church teaches.

    You find joy in a chance to become god, but you will be eternally sorrowful for your prideful ambition. Lucifer was kicked out of heaven and became Satan because he tried to be God. Adam and Eve got kicked out of the garden (Gods presence) for eating the fruit trying to be as like God. So what do you think will become of you and other Mormons who seek the Luciferian and occultic “exaltation” to Godhood?

    INDEED YOUR HOUSE IS ON FIRE and you need to get out. Today is the day of salvation, and Jesus did not become a man and die on the cross for you to be able to become a god,,,, NO he died for your sins. And he gives eternal life as a FREE gift to those that will accept it. When you add any kind of works to grace you make grace void.

    You and all Mormons need to accept the free gift, and thus be saved,,,, and give up your foolish ambitions for Godhood. There is only one God.

    Your claim that I am swayed by anti-cult ministries is just a false assumption and diversion tactic. I have done much primary research into Mormonism because my Uncle is a Mormon Bishop. I have studied it for 20+ yrs. I have had Mormon missionaries in my house over 20 times. Study of Mormonism lead me to study of freemasonry and the occult. Mormonism is occultic to the core. I wish you could see it.

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  7. Wow, with 20 years of study I am shocked that you also failed to mention that we are the Boogeyman.

  8. Why is it that many Christians want to throw out the book of James. Joseph Smith taught that faith is the moving cause of all action. To believe and not to act is to deny faith. Yet in action we do. Doing is works. Truly we are saved by the atonement of Christ and not of ourselves, lest any man shouyld boast. Christ makes up the difference. “For without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that he is the rewarder of them who diligently seek Him.” How can we be diligent if we are passive. Can we be saved in ignorance? Even Christ cannot save us in our sins. He came to save us from our sins.
    Faith brings repentance and a mighty change of heart. Surely we work out our salvation, not wait it out.

  9. TY for your comment JL. It has been awhile since I had fun dissecting (unspinning) some good obfuscations. Mormon and the Church of Christ are the most fun. I could just provide a list of Smiths founding visions or list all the things Mormon prophets and leaders have said about the whole of Christendom or I could just beg the question that if Mormonism is Christian,,, why did ya not become Christian? And if Mormons are Christian,,,,, are Christians Mormon? There are a number of quick responses I could make to prove the absurdity and political spin in your comments,,, But I think I will actually spend sometime making a response. Check back in a day or two and please don’t flood the post until then. Damon

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    JL,

    Your last two comments where unapproved and your future comments will also be not approved. THIS IS NOT the place to advertise your blog or to distribute OFFICIAL Mormon propaganda material.

    AND to suggest that I read a Mormon Scholar or refer to a Mormon to tell me who is and who is not qualified to say what Mormons believe is absurd.

    I get that spin all the time. Didn’t Millet leave the church? The fact is that things are not subject to opinion and Mormon statements have face value and inherent inferences. I love to watch a good Mormon spin the truth a thousand ways to Sunday. BUT I would rather be doing Radio programs than hash stuff out in text things that I have already done with many other Mormons.

    I TELL YA WHAT. Since you have never met a “Mormon misconception” that you could not straighten out,,,,,, YOU SHOULD DO SOME RADIO WITH ME,,, I have never met a Mormon image control Spin,,,, I could not unravel.

    SO if you would like to do a live talk radio/ semi debate on the subject of Mormonism,,,,, send a little comment. BUT if it’s not about doing radio,,, don’t send anything,,, cause I am probably going to be closing down comments on this blog soon. IF I decide to take the time to refute any of your text comments,,,,, I will send ya an e-mail when I post them.

    You really should have waited for me to respond before you piled it on. How rude,,, I even asked.


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