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		<title>New capstone conference video: The Wives of Joseph Smith, by Chip Thompson &amp; Doris Hanson</title>
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<p>Talk given on March 13, 2010 at the Capstone Conference held at Calvary  Chapel Salt Lake City.</p>
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		<title>21 Creeds of the Church of Christ: No Creed but the Bible?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;We have no creed by the Bible&#8221; is a slogan I have heard from childhood. And it is a noble slogan. We have been a fellowship of sloganeers. &#8220;We speak where the Bible speaks and are silent where the Bible is silent.&#8221; That is one of my favorites. I only wish it were true. If [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=how2becomeachristian.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4381259&amp;post=2785&amp;subd=how2becomeachristian&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We have no creed by the Bible&#8221; is a slogan I have  heard from  childhood. And it is a noble slogan. We have been a fellowship of  sloganeers.  &#8220;We speak where the Bible speaks and are silent where the Bible is  silent.&#8221; That  is one of my favorites. I only wish it were true. If we have genuinely  lived by  these kinds of directives then why all the splits and divisions within  our  religious movement over matters about which scripture has usually been  deafeningly silent? No, slogans do not make us a people of God&#8217;s own  choosing.</p>
<p>Leaders among the &#8220;restoration churches&#8221; have for  years been  saying that we have no creed/creeds. It appears to me that we have  fooled  ourselves into believing that if we repeat something often enough and  loudly  enough sooner or later people will believe it. It&#8217;s sort of how creeds  are  developed in the first place. In other words, if we practice or teach  something  long enough it will become an &#8220;old paths&#8221; tradition. Then, if the  tradition  doesn&#8217;t die, it becomes canon law (a creed) and is now a vital enough  matter to  debate.</p>
<p>Of course not all of us are guilty of accepting all  of the  creeds that will be here mentioned. So we may pick and choose those of  which we  are guilty of obeying and enforcing. Not all of the creeds &#8220;we&#8221; have  sired will  be here mentioned for two main reasons: 1) I can&#8217;t recall them all, 2)  Lack of  space and/or literary license from brother Charles. Now, if your  kindness, dear  readers, will allow, I shall launch into my laundry list of  ecclesiastical  creedalisms developed over myriad of decades of institutional evolution.  These  are not necessarily listed in order of importance.</p>
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<p><strong>First is the matter of the liturgical  (orthodox) prayer of the  churches of Christ. </strong>Our forms and expressions of  worship can easily become crystalized. Involved in our prayer creed is  the  business of who to address. One must direct his prayer to God the Father  and to  Him alone; never the God the Son, Jesus Christ. Forget that we have a  biblical  example of Stephen praying directly to Christ. Forget that Jesus is our  intermediary to the Father (can you imagine a client never getting to  talk to  his attorney?). Forget that some may occasionally desire to slip in a  small, &#8220;I  love you, dear Jesus, for what you did for me!&#8221;</p>
<p>Not only must we pray exclusively to the Father and  never utter  a word to Christ or the Holy Spirit (who also mediates on our behalf),  but we  must at home juncture within the prayer speak the words, &#8220;In Jesus&#8217;  name.&#8221; It is  preferable to say this at the closing in a public prayer so that the  congregants  may Amen in agreement without distress.</p>
<p>Oh, I almost forgot, there is the matter of prayer  &#8220;language&#8221;  to the ultra orthodox. <strong>Majestic </strong>pronouns are often preferred over  other,  less regal, words (thee, thou, and thy over you and your). Somehow these   pronouns are able to convey respect and humility to God in spite of the  fact  that there were no <strong>royal </strong>pronouns in the biblical languages. To  add to  this dilemma, there are also preferred cliche expressions to top things  off (of  course I try to avoid cliches <strong>like the plague</strong>. Expressions such  as: 1)  Guide, guard and direct, 2) Ready recollection, 3) Molestation, 4)  Another  portion of thy word, 5) Sick and afflicted, 6) Next appointed time, 7)  Respective places of abode, et al.</p>
<p>Aside from the matter of &#8220;holy&#8221; pronouns and catch  phrases is  the business of regressing into Elizabethan English to speak to deity.  Joseph  Smith used this technique when he penned his Book of Mormon and  &#8220;Inspired&#8221;  version of the Bible. He assumed that if he wrote, &#8220;And it came to pass&#8221;  some  2,000 times that the story would have an obvious ring of divinity. He,  as we,  used phrases with ancient words like <strong>wouldst</strong> and <strong>couldst</strong> and  <strong>hast </strong>and <strong>loveth</strong> and <strong>coveteth</strong>. Really brethren, is a  prayer  more sincere if we say, &#8220;Holy Father, we loveth thee and coveteth thy  bountiful  grace&#8221; instead of&#8221;Dear Lord, we love you and ask for your generous  mercy?&#8221;  Besides, I tho&#8217;t coveting was a sin.</p>
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<p><strong>Second is the matter of the Lord&#8217;s Supper only  to be taken on  the first day of the week. </strong>If it&#8217;s taken<strong> </strong>any other time it&#8217;s  got to be wrong. Forget that  Christ instituted it on a &#8220;Thursday&#8221; (Thor&#8217;s day by our calendar)  evening.  Forget that there is no direct command found anywhere in the New  Testament that  requires Sunday (Sun Day) only observance. Forget that Jesus said, &#8220;As  often as  you eat this bread and drink this cup.&#8221; Forget that in Acts 2 the  disciples  &#8220;broke bread&#8221; daily. We have legislated a creed (or simply held on to a  vestage  of Romish theocracy as many denominations unwittingly did) that demands  the  communion of our Lord to be experienced/enjoyed only on one day of the  week  every week.</p>
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<p><strong>Third is the creed of unfermented wine. </strong>That&#8217;s<strong> </strong>right. Jesus turned water into Welch&#8217;s grape juice. Alcoholic wine  was not  and &#8220;cannot&#8221; be used for the Lord&#8217;s Supper, period. (As fascinating as  it seems,  there is even a group in our fractured movement that believes only  &#8220;fermented&#8221;  wine can be used.) Who says so? Keepers of the creeds, that&#8217;s who.  Forget that  the Corinthian brethren got drunk on Lord&#8217;s Supper wine. Forget the  prohibition  to elders not to be given to much wine (why prohibit the consumption of  harmless  juice?). This scribe wrote a simple essay on the Lord&#8217;s Supper several  years  back and made the &#8220;mistake&#8221; of concluding that the fermentation, or lack   thereof, of the communion wine<strong> </strong>was a matter of personal  <strong>preference</strong><em> </em>or circumstances. Letters poured in from both  sides.  Letters of disgust at my blatant liberalism. Yes, I&#8217;m a <strong>teetotaler, </strong>but   our <strong>teetotaling </strong>mentality has foisted upon us another  creed.</p>
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<p><strong>Fourth is the creed of unleavened bread. </strong>If  the<strong> </strong>wine must be pure then it follows that  the bread must be pure. Forget that unleavened bread was present at the  time  Jesus originated the Lord&#8217;s Supper because it was the only bread  available at  the moment because of the Passover feast just commemorated by Christ and  His  disciples. Forget that there is no command to use unleavened bread  exclusively  anywhere in New Testament scripture. If one doesn&#8217;t think we are hard  line about  such matters then attempt the use of fermented wine and store bought  bread in  most of our services.</p>
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<p><strong>Fifth is the matter of what form our worship  singing will take. </strong>Form becoming tradition becoming creed again!  This position (creed) is that all singing must be congregational  (everyone  singing at one time). There is no room for quartet or chorus (too much  like a  choir and everybody knows choirs are sinful) singing. There is no  quarter for  solos even though we sit mute while a paid orator (usually) tells us (in  solo)  what we want to hear but somehow we know that nobody has the right to  sing  (solo) what we want to hear.</p>
<p>Forget the fact that the New Testament is practically  silent  about the &#8220;form&#8221; of our singing and rather focuses upon purpose and  intent  (&#8220;with the spirit and understanding&#8221;). Forget the fact that Paul said  of a  group of Christians that each one had a song. Forget that many of our  congregational songs have alto and soprano and bass leads that are sung  while  the rest remain attentive but silent. Who knows how much damage this one  narrow  minded creed has done to our creativity in developing songs and musical  praise  to God. And where is the scripture found for such a hard line position?  Right  next to the one that says we can sing in four part harmony.</p>
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<p><strong>Sixth is the matter of elders not needing to  answer to the  flock but the flock having to answer to the elders. </strong>This creed is  directly  tied to the concept of elders comprising an &#8220;eldership&#8221; which is more or  less a  &#8220;boat&#8221; that carries a decision making board of directors (see Bob West&#8217;s  &#8220;I&#8217;ve  Learned Better&#8221; in <strong>The Examiner, </strong>Sept. 1988). Forget that elders  aren&#8217;t  elders without the members first desiring and acknowledging such. Forget  that  elders are to be shepherds and sheep feeders rather than Lords and sheep   herders. Most of the trauma concerning church leadership can be directly  traced  to elder-ships that suppose that somehow or other such servants are  endowed with  <strong>power</strong> to rule and reign over institutions called  churches. Jesus died for indigents, not for institutions!</p>
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<p><strong>Seventh is the creed that worship consists of  five (count&#8217;em)  acts to be done in an assembly hall </strong>(usually an expensive  edifice that helps maintain the institutional image). Five acts, mind  you, is  what worship is all about. And usually they must be done within the  framework of  an opening prayer (which begins worship) and a closing prayer (which  ends  worship).</p>
<p>This is one reason we have group singing (even  choirs) after  the dismissal prayer. You see, this makes it all scriptural. It is  against our  creed that &#8220;listening&#8221; is an item (act) of worship during singing.  Forget that  worship is an expression of the heart. Forget that there is no command  to  perform (engage in) five items of worship.</p>
<p>The five acts of worship, as if anyone would forget,  include:  1) Prayer, 2) Lord&#8217;s Supper, 3) Money giving, 4) Singing, 5) And most  important  of all, a religious speech (usually by a professional lecturer)  delivered to the  very ones who provide his salary. That&#8217;s it, folks! Worship! Forget the  bedtime  Bible stories told by a loving mother to her little ones. Forget the  hard work  father does to provide for his family (and his tithe). Forget hospital  visits,  death sympathies, kind words of encouragement and letters to the lonely.  There  are only five items of worship.</p>
<p>Sadly, we do have an unmentionable &#8220;sixth item&#8221; of  worship  which has not yet received full canonical acceptance, namely, the  announcements.  Yet Goad is serious in making the point that even announcements can be  very  worshipful and vital to a family of God&#8217;s worshippers. So can foyer holy  hugs  and kisses.</p>
<p>Before I continue, I can hear some of you now. Please  love me  in spite of my mouth/pen. I love you all. Jesus loves us all. We be  brethren  because of Christ and not because of unanimity of opinion. As verbal as I  am, I  am trying to be brief. Every one of these creeds could be a ten page  essay. So  at least be grateful for my condensation of thoughts. That always leaves  more  room for ambiguity and misunderstanding, but I would love to hear from  all who  wish to write in response, whether in agreement or to set me straight.</p>
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<p><strong>Eighth is the creedal matter of how we  interpret the  scriptures. </strong>In a nutshell our<strong> modus operandi </strong>in<strong> </strong>such  areas is  simply: 1) Direct command, 2) Apostolic example, 3) Necessarily  inference. This  &#8220;necessary inference&#8221; is the one that has gotten us into big trouble  throughout  the years. Just who determines what is necessarily inferred for another  person?  If we were Catholics then it would be easy to answer that question.  Again, this  might assist us in understanding why we have developed <strong>elderships. </strong>They  determine these matters.</p>
<p>Anyway, this three-pronged creed is an exegetical  tool of  understanding &#8220;who said what to whom when&#8221; and &#8220;is it binding for me?&#8221;  Of  course, there is no scripture that says this is how we define divine  truth for  the ages, but you couldn&#8217;t prove that by the decibels and syllogisms of  some of  our better known keepers of truth. Tools (formuli) to assist in  understanding  God&#8217;s word ought never to become ends in themselves. We all have  differing  vantage points from which we view scripture. The  command-example-inference  approach has its strengths and its weaknesses.</p>
<p>Not to undermine a help in understanding but to  enable us to  see that that is all it is, a tool, I mention just a few weaknesses. Our   fellowship has loosed direct commands (holy kisses &amp; feet washing  for  examples) and has bound inferences (Sunday only Lord&#8217;s Supper,  congregation  accapella singing for examples). I could list several examples but that  is not  my point. (I&#8217;d be delighted to hear from those with lists where we have  inadvertantly or on purpose bound and loosed in such fashion.) My point  is this,  there are myriad ways for truth seekers to come to a knowledge of truth.  I use  one rule of interpretation that works for me better than any other. I&#8217;d  be glad  to share it. But I do not hide behind it as though it is an inspired  creed  revealed from God.</p>
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<p><strong>Ninth in our list of creeds is the one that  says women can&#8217;t  serve in a public way without usurping men&#8217;s authority. </strong>Let me give  you an example. A woman can&#8217;t serve the Lord&#8217;s Supper emblems in  assembly. I won&#8217;t bore you with other examples. This is sufficient.  Forget that  a woman can prepare emblems before the &#8220;worship begins&#8221; and bring them  to the  table. Forget that she can cook and serve at home without usurping her  husband&#8217;s  authority. Forget that serving has nothing to do with usurping in the  first  place. She can&#8217;t do it! Why? It violates this feminine creed.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s more. A ten year old boy who has just been  baptized can  pass the emblems up and down the church aisle, but a saintly seventy  year old  elder&#8217;s wife cannot. Get this. A woman can pass the emblems from side to  side  while sitting in the pew, but she can&#8217;t pass them up and down the aisle.  And she  had better be careful about standing up when she passes from side to  side.  Silly? You bet it is.</p>
<p>We have unknowingly (I&#8217;m being charitable) stifled  the  spiritual growth of countless female disciples by our insensitive and  creedal  approach that says to women, &#8220;Shut up and be quiet.&#8221; Please don&#8217;t 1,000  watch  dogs write to me and remind me to read 1 Corinthians 14 and I Timothy 2.  I  already have. But my example has nothing to do with those passages in  their  context (spiritual gifts in assembly and men able to pray &#8220;everywhere&#8221;  tho&#8217; we  have loosed the matter of holding up holy hands in that passage).</p>
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<p><strong>Tenth is the creed that fellowship implies  (confirms) consent  of the error of those we fellowship. </strong>Nonsense! I could  fellowship the pope himself in helping rescue a beggar from his plight.  That  would not mean I accepted Roman Catholicism or Papal infallibility.  Fellowship  is a mutual sharing and joint participation. It is not a pot luck. It  does not  prove endorsement or error. If we could fellowship only those who fully  agree  with us on every doctrinal matter we&#8217;d all be lonely souls indeed. So  simple and  yet we miss it. We&#8217;ve been programmed and conditioned to accept ideas we  haven&#8217;t  even prayed over or thought through to their logical conclusions.</p>
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<p><strong>Eleventh is the implied creed that in order  for a church to  grow it must acquire an edifice and secure a paid edifier. </strong>That&#8217;s  correct.  To start a church one must get some land, build a building, put the  sheep in  debt for years, hire a F.T.P.G.P. then we&#8217;re in business. Somebody  forgot to  tell Peter, James and John about such methods. <strong>The Examiner </strong>has  dealt so thoroughly with this idea  that I&#8217;ll be quiet, such a task as it is.</p>
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<p><strong>Twelfth is the belief that the genuinely  restored church of the  first century A.D. is one that can be traced to a pioneer American  religious  movement. </strong>Religious movements can be productive when they  force us to think ourselves out of indifference and creeds and point us  back to  the source of life. Yet we have a way of canonizing our restorationists.</p>
<p>Campbell no more had a monopoly on truth and  understanding than  did Luther in his time. We ought to be grateful for the contributions of  both of  these men. But to say, &#8220;Campbell&#8217;s movement has it!&#8221; or &#8220;Luther&#8217;s  movement has  it!&#8221; is a big mistake. Christ has it. Christ is it! We must learn to  stop  funneling our thinking through movements and men and focus on what makes  us  children of God.</p>
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<p><strong>Thirteenth is the notion that faithful  preachers of the gospel  are men graduated from our schools. </strong>True, Jesus  operated a preacher training school for three years. But, again I say,  nobody  (body of teachers especially) has a monopoly on truth and faithfulness,  not even  us.</p>
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<p><strong>Fourteenth is the unwritten (I&#8217;ve even seen it  in print) creed  that deacons handle physical matters and elders decide on spiritual  affairs. </strong>Forget that to be a true servant (deacon) of God is a  highly spiritual matter. Forget that among the first deacons were found  great  evangelists. Forget that in many churches the elders are so bogged down  with  administrative trivia that they have precious little time left for the  feeding  and tending of sheep. Being a deacon is not merely a matter of physical  administration.</p>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>Fifteenth is the notion that true New  Testament preaching of  the gospel is any talk or sermonette or homily delivered on Sunday from  behind a  wooden box or &#8220;pulpit&#8221; regardless of content. </strong>A sub<strong> </strong>notion is  that if it&#8217;s out of the box then it  falls under the classification of teaching. I am of the persuasion that  most if  not all of New Testament preaching was done without benefit of the  clerical  pulpit of today.</p>
<p>Did Peter have a pulpit when he used the keys of the  kingdom on  Pentecost? Did Paul have a pulpit on Mars Hill? Did Phillip, while  riding in the  eunuch&#8217;s chariot? It seems apparent that the proclamation of the death,  burial  and resurrection of Christ and how sinners can participate in it is the  heart  and center of the gospel and that it can be delivered with an open Bible  from  across a kitchen table or while riding in an automobile. Few souls who  have  never heard of Jesus seem to be clamoring to attend our religious  services so  they can humbly sit at the feet of professional clergy. Probably less  &#8220;conversions&#8221; take place in our stained glass cathedrals than we would  like to  admit.</p>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>Sixteenth is the creed that unity in Jesus can  be had if the  sectarians would just agree with us. </strong>In<strong> </strong>other words, unity is  achieved through unanimity of  opinion. Our opinion, of course. Just which of the many segments of the  Restoration Movement possesses this truth (sound doctrine) remains to be  seen  and depends on who one talks to. Jesus prayed for unity in John 17. It  must have  been achieved because Paul wrote that it was something one could  endeavor to  keep or maintain. It was not had because everyone thought exactly alike  but  probably because all those in Jesus were of like mind&#8230;a big  difference. Unity?  Yes! Robots all thinking alike? No. We&#8217;re correct and you are not! Come  join us  and we can be one? Never!</p>
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<p><strong>Seventeenth is a creed already mentioned as we  began this trek  into reasoning, namely, the creed that says we have no creed but the  Bible. </strong>It may be<strong> </strong>the noblest of  all our creeds. I admit, I like it! It acknowledges a standard an  authority. It  points us to the liberating word. Yet it misses one glaringly  fundamental point.  The doctrine truth seekers encounter in the word are always open to  individual  interpretations. Our brains are different. Our backgrounds vary. Thus we  often  end up drawing dissimilar conclusions. Do our conclusions alter truth?  No. Does  a first impression understanding of a doctrinal matter mean one is  correct? No.  Does changing one&#8217;s mind or altering a position as maturity and insight  are  achieved suggest that truth is in a state of flux of the seeker of it is  without  proper understanding? Of course not.</p>
<p>Deciphering the mysteries of God&#8217;s divine revelation  to  humankind is a challenging and humbling experience. No one has an edge  on how to  come to grips with the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.  To say  one has a hot line to Biblical interpretation smacks of popery and  apostolic  prowess. We deny papal right to speak <strong>ex cathedra </strong>yet some of our   brethren come frighteningly close to it in their pronouncements and  their  efforts at keeping the brotherhood pure. Beware!</p>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>Eighteenth is a creed held by many that the  Lord no longer  divinely intervenes m bodily healing through prayer. </strong>We  pray for the sick, often in token fashion, then usually add a disclaimer  after a  request by saying, &#8220;If it be thy will.&#8221; To me this implies that it is  the Lord&#8217;s  will that cancer ravage bodies and babies lives are snatched in infancy  by  sickness. Who of us really believes such? Do we pray believing the power  of the  universe is at our disposal? I confess that I have been programmed for  so long  that I wonder if I have the capacity to completely utter a prayer with  childlike  faith and trust, especially regarding the healing of the sick and  infirmed.</p>
<p>Faith as a grain of mustard seed is all that is  required but we  have been taught such things ended about the time John penned his  revelatory  &#8220;Amen.&#8221; Perhaps we are afraid that if we teach and pray believing that  this will  lend credence to charlatans and frauds who dupe desperately ill and  gullible  people out of their money all in the name of divine gifts. Do frauds and  fakers  really detract from the promised blessings of Almighty God?</p>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>Nineteenth is that somehow God authorized a  particular English  translation of the Bible, namely the King James Version (or insert your  choice). </strong>Someone<strong> </strong>jokingly said, &#8220;The  KJV was good enough for Paul so it&#8217;s good enough for me!&#8221; Absurd, you  say. Who  believes such? Then why all the commotion and writing and debating about  which  translation is authorized? Authorized by whom? Sadly some people still  don&#8217;t  possess any Bible in their own native language yet some among us have  created  disturbances (even splits) over versions. God should be thanked, and  linguists  too, that we have so many good committee translations in English. Can  you  imagine French Christians arguing and splintering over the KJV when they  can&#8217;t  even read it in the first place?</p>
<p>Sometimes it appears our church leaders spend  overtime deciding  which topics we can debate over and quarrel over rather than focusing  their  talents and energies on the message of a redeeming Saviour. Brethren, no  modern  translation of the Bible is inspired of God (excluding the Jehovah&#8217;s  Witnesses&#8217;  New World Translation and Joseph Smith&#8217;s Inspired Version of course).</p>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>Twentieth is a widely held creed among so many  of us that the  proper and divinely designated name for God&#8217;s kingdom on earth is  (little c)  &#8220;church of Christ.&#8221;</strong> Can you believe it? Yes. Try to alter the name.  Just  suggest such a thing. The ekklesia was called so many things that an  obvious  conclusion an open mind could draw was that there was never given (or  intended)  a <strong>proper </strong>name for the body  of Christ. The &#8220;way&#8221; has always been described but never named. &#8220;The  church of  God&#8221; identifies the &#8220;bride of Christ&#8221; ten to one over &#8220;church of  Christ.&#8221; Come  to think of it &#8220;church of Christ&#8221; is found only in the plural and refers  to  congregations of the Lord&#8217;s people. We are so hung up on pigeon holing  people.  They all must have a name. We must have a name! The family of God  transcends  such legalism.</p>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>Twenty-first</strong> <strong>is</strong> <strong>the creed that  only members of  the (little c) church of Christ will</strong> <strong>be saved. </strong>Forget that  all those who are in Christ Jesus will be saved. Our narrow  understanding of that is to equate being in Christ with being in the  church of  Christ (our particular branch thereof). &#8220;One cannot be saved outside the  kingdom  of God and obviously the kingdom of God is us, the church of Christ.&#8221;  What  answer would one have received had he been able to ask a 95 A.D.  disciple of  Christ, &#8220;What is the name of the church?&#8221; Would such a question have  made any  sense?</p>
<p>Whew! I understand this seems negative. It could have  been  presented much more gently. But, alas, I have at my disposal only the  writing  skills thus acquired. So be patient with me. Forgive me for not quoting  or  scripture referencing every allusion to the Bible but I deliberately  left those  out to encourage you to search the scriptures personally. Those familiar  with  the word are aware and could easily quote appropriate scriptures at  proper  places within the text. The Lord bless you.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theexaminer.org/volume4/number1/creed.htm">http://www.theexaminer.org/volume4/number1/creed.htm</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[QUESTION #1 Is Freemasonry a Religion from http://logosresourcepages.org/FalseTeachings/freemas_2.htm Generally, the Freemason will inform anyone who asks, that his organization is not a religion. Thus, there would be no problem with any church affiliations, because joining the Masons is not joining &#8220;another church.&#8221; Recently many newspapers carried an insert entitled, Freemasonry &#8211; A Way of Life. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=how2becomeachristian.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4381259&amp;post=464&amp;subd=how2becomeachristian&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3><strong><a name="QUESTION #1">QUESTION #1</a> Is Freemasonry a Religion</strong></h3>
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<p>Generally, the Freemason will inform anyone who asks, that his organization is not a religion. Thus, there would be no problem with any church affiliations, because joining the Masons is not joining &#8220;another church.&#8221;</p>
<p>Recently many newspapers carried an insert entitled, <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Freemasonry &#8211; A Way of Life</span></em>. The insert stated, <em>&#8220;Masonry is NOT a religion in any sense of the word, yet it is religious. Church membership is not a requirement, yet membership in ANY church is no bar to admission. There is nothing in the requirements of Masonry to prevent a Catholic, a Mohammedan, a Jew, a Buddhist, a Protestant, a Mormon, or any member of any religion from becoming a member.&#8221; </em>(The Question of Freemasonry, Computers for Christ). Dr. Richard Thorn, a 32 degree Mason writes, <em>&#8220;Masonry says that it is not a religion. An honest interpretation of the teachings of Freemasonry will show that instead of teaching men what to believe, men are simply asked to put the religion they already have, when they become a Mason, into everyday practice&#8221;</em> (&#8220;Fundamentalist &amp; Freemason,&#8221; The Northern Light, Vol. 25 No. 3 August, 1994, p. 9). Many similar statements are given by those involved in Freemasonry, and likely many believe it. But <span style="text-decoration:underline;">are they correct in their conclusion that Freemasonry is not a religion</span>? Let&#8217;s investigate and see what we uncover.</p>
<ul>
<li> <strong> <span style="color:#533800;">The Definition of &#8220;religion&#8221;</span></strong></li>
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<p>To begin with, we need to define the word &#8220;<span style="text-decoration:underline;">religion</span>.&#8221; Webster defines it as <em>&#8220;&#8230;a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of people or sects&#8230;&#8221; </em>(Webster&#8217;s College Dictionary, Random House 1991 ed., p. 1138). To be sure this definition could be expanded to include much more, but this basic definition is sufficient for the purpose of this report.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s apply the key words and phrases from this definition of religion to Freemasonry. <strong>First</strong>, Masons have <em>&#8220;&#8230;a specific fundamental set&#8230;&#8221;</em> That is, they have set parameters, or guidelines, they operate by. <strong>Second</strong>, Freemasons hold to a system of common &#8220;<em>beliefs</em>&#8221; that form the foundation of their organization and which are agreed upon by their members. <strong>Finally</strong>, it encourages &#8220;<em>practices</em>,&#8221; which require a written standard from which to formulate them. Among their teachings are volumes of written materials explaining their doctrines, beliefs and goals. It is clear, Freemasonry fits the dictionary definition of a religion.</p>
<ul>
<li> <strong> <span style="color:#533800;"> The Teachings of Freemasonry</span> </strong></li>
</ul>
<p>Albert G. Mackey and Charles T. McClenachan wrote the 2 volume set titled <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Encyclopedia of Freemasonry</span></em>. This set is a standard reference for the &#8220;beliefs and practices&#8221; of Freemasonry. Note the following statement concerning Freemasonry and religion: &#8220;<em>There has been a needless expenditure of ingenuity and talent, by a large number of Masonic orators and essayists, in the endeavor to prove that Masonry is not a religion&#8230; <span style="text-decoration:underline;">I contend</span>, without any sort of hesitation, <span style="text-decoration:underline;">that Masonry is, in every sense of the word</span>, except one, and that its least philosophical, <span style="text-decoration:underline;">an eminently religious institution</span> &#8212; that it is indebted solely to the religious element which it contains for its origin and for its continued existence, and that without this religious element it would scarcely be worthy of cultivation by the wise and good</em>&#8221; (Vol. 2, p. 618).</p>
<p>Clearly, according to this statement, it is legitimate to speak of the &#8220;Religion of Freemasonry.&#8221; The above statement speaks of the &#8220;<em>religious element</em>,&#8221; which would indicate some form of doctrine. It uses the term &#8220;<em>cultivation</em>,&#8221; which seems to imply its practices. Mackey and McClenachan continue: &#8220;<em>The tendency of all true Masonry is toward religion. If it makes any progress, its progress is to that holy end. Look at its ancient landmarks, its sublime ceremonies, its profound symbols and allegories &#8212; all inculcating <span style="text-decoration:underline;">religious doctrine</span>, commanding religious observance, and <span style="text-decoration:underline;">teaching religious truth</span>, and who can deny that it is eminently a religious institution?&#8230;<strong> </strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;"> Masonry, then, is, indeed, a religious institution</span>; and on this ground mainly, if not alone, should the religious Mason defend it</em>&#8221; (Vol. 2, pp. 618-619).</p>
<p>It is obvious in the view of these Freemasonry writers that <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Freemasonry is a religion</span> when they declare, &#8220;<em>&#8230;who can deny that it is eminently a religious institution?</em>&#8220;</p>
<ul>
<li><strong><span style="color:#533800;">Other Indicators of The Religious Nature of Freemasons</span> </strong></li>
</ul>
<p>There are other indicators that clearly verify the religious nature of Freemasonry including their ancient landmarks, ceremonies, symbols, allegories and teachings. One example is the meeting place, <span style="text-decoration:underline;">the Masonic Lodge</span>.<em> &#8220;Every lodge is a Temple, and as a whole, and in its details symbolic&#8230; A &#8216;lodge&#8217; is defined to be &#8216;an assemblage of Freemasons, duly congregated, having the sacred writings, square, and compass, and a charter, or warrant of constitution, authorizing them to work&#8217;&#8221; </em>(Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, 1917 ed., p. 7).</p>
<p>The <span style="text-decoration:underline;">ranks</span> of Freemasonry also suggest a religious order. Note the titles included in the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry &#8212; Perfect Master; Prince of Jerusalem; Chief of Tabernacle; Prince of Tabernacle; Knight of the Brazen Serpent; Prince of Mercy and Commander of the Temple. These titles are immersed in religious meaning and symbolism.</p>
<p>There is a great deal of <span style="text-decoration:underline;">symbolism</span> involved in Freemasonry. <em>&#8220;Freemasonry is a system of morality developed and inculcated by the science of symbolism&#8230; Withdraw from Freemasonry its Symbolism, and you take from the body its soul, leaving behind nothing but a lifeless mass of effete matter, fitted only for a rapid decay&#8221;</em> (Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, Vol. 2, p. 754). <em>&#8220;Masonry uses many symbols. They&#8217;re our primary way of teaching, just as they were in ancient times&#8221;</em> (Questions and Answers, The Northern Light, February 1993, p. 19).</p>
<p>Though there is much more that could be stated, it should be apparent that Freemasonry is a religion. It is seen through the writings of the Masonic Order, the terms used in various activities, the titles of the hierarchy and the symbolism that is involved.</p>
<ul>
<li><strong><span style="color:#533800;">Why The Denial?</span> </strong></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Why do many Masons deny that their organization is a religion?</span> Why would a friend or relative neglect to be honest about their organization? There may be various reasons for the uncertainty of their answers.</p>
<p>To begin with, there are people who become involved in organizations in a superficial manner. I am convinced that many join Masonic organizations without a full understanding of the teachings the organization holds. They join simply for the companionship or for social contact or social standing. Their involvement is limited to the initiatory status without their knowing the history, doctrines or practices of the organization.</p>
<p>In reality, Freemasonry does not reveal its teachings to every Mason. One of their own publications admits that. <em>&#8220;Masonry, like all the Religions&#8230; conceals </em>(italics his)<em> its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it. Truth is not for those who are unworthy or unable to receive it, or would pervert it&#8221;</em> (Morals and Dogma, p. 105).</p>
<p>Clearly <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Freemasonry allows intentional deception within its ranks</span> when it desires to do so. In any event, it appears that not all Masons understand what is involved in the beliefs and practices of the Masonic Order.</p>
<p>Finally, the Mason is sworn to secrecy through oaths throughout the 33 degrees. For example, the Entered Apprentice of the first degree swears, <em>&#8221; &#8230;binding myself under no less penalty than that of having my throat cut from ear to ear, my tongue torn out by its roots, and buried in the sands of the sea, at low water mark, where the tide ebbs and flows twice in twenty-four hours, should I, in the least, knowingly or wittingly violate or transgress this my Entered Apprentice obligation. So help me God, and keep me steadfast&#8221;</em> (Ralph P. Lester, ed. Look to the East! A Ritual of the First Three Degrees of Masonry. Charles T. Powner Co., 1982, p. 31). Could it be that the denial is due to the oaths taken, and the penalty for disclosing any secrets? I believe the answer is &#8220;YES!&#8221;</p>
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<li><strong><span style="color:#533800;">Is Freemasonry a Religion?</span> </strong></li>
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<p>Though the arguments stated above are certainly nowhere near exhaustive, they are sufficient to establish the fact that <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Freemasonry is a religion</span>. It fits an acceptable definition of a religion, and has its own order and system of doctrine.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Word of Faith Movement is powerful and influential, with numerous affiliated churches worldwide. Compelling, charismatic leaders preach their peculiar doctrines to enthusiastic and accepting global audiences who view Word Faith as just another denomination within Christianity, but are they really? Best known for their &#8220;prosperity gospel&#8221;, they promise riches in this life. W ask [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=how2becomeachristian.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4381259&amp;post=459&amp;subd=how2becomeachristian&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Word of Faith Movement is powerful and influential, with numerous affiliated churches worldwide. Compelling, charismatic leaders preach their peculiar doctrines to enthusiastic and accepting global audiences who view Word Faith as just another denomination within Christianity, but are they really?</p>
<p>Best known for their &#8220;prosperity gospel&#8221;, they promise riches in this life. W ask and answer the question, &#8220;Is Word Faith prosperity really Biblical prosperity?&#8221; The answer might surprise you. We let the Bible speak.</p>
<p>However the Word Faith Movement is in far deeper water doctrinally. Certain lines cannot be crossed without becoming outright heresy. These lines include the Person of Jesus Christ. We must not misrepresent our Lord and Savior, or we could be found guilty of presenting &#8220;another Jesus&#8221; and &#8220;another gospel&#8221; as the Apostle Paul warned the church.</p>
<p>Has the Word Faith Movement crossed the line? We believe so and you can decide for yourself as this DVD takes a Biblical look at some of their more aberrant teachings. Be prepared to be shocked!</p>
<p>Lorri MacGregor brings over thirty years of Discernment Ministry experience to this expose, having authored two books, ten DVDs, numerious articles and booklets examining various groups.</p>
<p>Lorri was a Jehovah&#8217;s Witness for 15 years and together with her husband Keith MacGregor and ministry partners Richard and Cheryl Schatz, serves with MM Outreach a US based non profit organization dedicated to the preaching of the gospel message to lost and hurting people.</p>
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<div>INTRODUCTION</p>
<p>“But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough” [II Corinthians 11:3-4 ESV].</p>
<p>With the same fear that Paul had for the Corinthian church, I issue this paper. Oh, that believers’ eyes will be opened and that they will not fall prey for the deceit of satan and follow after another Jesus. This paper is in response to teachings propagated by many Word of Faith Movement teachers. A man may be excused if the error he teaches is simply out of pure ignorance however, when they are reproved and continue unrepentant with their teachings, such should be addressed publicly of their error in order to savage the people of God from blasphemy. Many other things may be overlooked or simply be taken as matters of opinions but we cannot do that when it comes to the Person of Jesus. When the image of the true Jesus is distorted we’re dealing with heresies. The doctrine concerning Christ is not something left to our freedom of interpretation seeing that the Bible provides clear teaching of who He is.</p>
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<p>While there are many other views about Jesus I’m at present not undertaking such a task in this meager address. My purpose is to refute the horrific false Christ being propagated in the Word of Faith which is absolutely separated from the teaching of Scripture. Many people think that the criticism against the Word of Faith Movement is aimed at certain individuals. If you understand the magnitude of the task I’m undertaking you’ll be slow in saying that I’m attacking certain individuals. When the church of God is at stake we can never be too harsh with wolves, in this case war is the only option left to rescue God’s people from being deceived.</p>
<p>I look back into the years I’ve been part of the Word of Faith Movement and realize how many people are following after a Jesus of their own making rather than the one of Scripture. Many continue to follow after another or false Christ and sad it will be when Christ will turn them on the last day off as workers of iniquity and evil doers.</p>
<p>1. HE WAS JUST AN ANOINTED MAN</p>
<p>This view teaches that Jesus needed power like any other ordinary man because on earth He had no divinity dwelling in Him. Kenneth Copeland in his popular magazine wrote that Jesus “had no innate supernatural powers. He had no ability to perform miracles until after He was anointed by the Holy Spirit” [Believer’s Voice of Victory, August 1988, 8 – Question &amp; Answer].</p>
<p>This view disposes Jesus of being God and reduces Him to the level of an ordinary person. Scripture surely tells us that Jesus was anointed by the Father with the Holy Spirit and with power [Acts 10:38] but it’s not teaching this as the Word of Faith teachers do. His being enabled does not signify ordinariness but rather as proof of being commissioned by God and also as authentication for being the Messiah. The reason for being anointed with the Holy Spirit is the absolute doing of God i.e. God chose to authenticate the public ministry of His Son is such a form because He willed it to be so. Just because He was anointed does not make Him an ordinary man who needed the anointing of God’s Spirit in order to perform miracles, rather His kind of anointing was the authentication of His divinity.</p>
<p>Scripture clearly teaches that Jesus came as the Son of God, lived as the Son of God, died as the Son of God and rose from the dead as the Son of God. Truly, He was a man on earth but not an ordinary man like all men are. He was truly God in the flesh anointed and filled with the power at the during the Incarnation [Luke 1:35]; during the Baptism [Luke 3:22]; and during His Ministry [Luke 4:14]. However, none of these warrants that they happened because He was an ordinary man who needed the anointing – it all happened because God chose such a manner to manifest His Son in the world.</p>
<p>2. HE LEFT HIS DEITY IN HEAVEN</p>
<p>Dear reader, teachings about Christ can never be taken for granted any error about is perilous to the faith of God’s people. For some people this is not a serious offence to Scripture and consider those who go about exposing such errors as simply overreacting or being judgmental over minor issues. I find people who think erroneous teachings about Christ are minor issues quite ridiculous and at most annoying. If speaking blasphemously about God isn’t taken serious how much more about other doctrines of Scripture.</p>
<p>This view teaches that Christ came to earth simply as an ordinary man with no divinity in Him. Rodney Howard Brown boldly in his book stated that: “Nothing Jesus did was because He was the Son of God. The Bible says He laid aside His royal robes of Deity and when He walked on earth He did so as a Prophet under the Abrahamic Covenant” [Anointing, p. 15]. It is true that Christ left His glory in heaven in order to become like one of us but no Scripture teaches that left His Godhood in heaven. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God, He was with God in the beginning… He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him” [John 1:1-2,10]. John does not give any impression in this first chapter of his gospel where Christ ceased to be God, rather there is continuity from the first verse to that of Him coming into the world i.e. He’s presented as God throughout even when He came in the form of man.</p>
<p>Brown misreads Scripture to present a Jesus of his own mind rather than that of Scripture. Christ having come in the form of man was a voluntary self-abasement of the second Person of the Trinity. But in that abasement, He did not leave His deity behind nor did He walked under the Abrahamic Covenant. He came as the Son of God in the form of man and lived as God in the flesh under the law (voluntarily). Brown’s view teaches that liberal and heretic view of Kenosis which Scripture itself doesn’t support. This doctrine of an empty God rises from the misinterpretation of Philippians 2:5-11. Nowhere does Paul imply that Christ ceased from divine attributes, He rather affirms that while Christ was God, He willingly abased Himself and never attempted to grapple with Him being God with the Father. He was equal with the Father but never for a moment did He attempt to proof that to anyone on earth but voluntarily abased Himself as to the Father’s purpose. For Christ to have ceased of His attributes of omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresence etc would also mean that He ceased to be God which is an improbability for God can never cease to be who He is even when He came in the form of a man.</p>
<p>3. HE BECAME BORN AGAIN</p>
<p>On 25th December 2009 (06h18 a.m), an old family friend sent me a the most annoying text I’ve ever received in all my life. The message was as follow:</p>
<p>“Jesus was born to die for this world, He came and fulfilled what He was born to do. Then He was bornagain and His mission of being born in the flesh brought a victorious life to those who believe in Him and became born again as Him. As they enter their second birth, they are not only born again as Him but they are born in Him and from Him and became children of God as Him, Him being the firstborn from death. The believers did not only become His children they also became children of His Father and join-heirs with Him. That is why we believers need to celebrate His first birth more with passion and joy beyond anyone, for He brought us to a godly kingdom that will never end and gave us His nature and life and as He was given to us, we received EVERYTHING with Him. BLESSED FIRST BIRTHDAY JESUS OUR LORD AND GOD‼! WE ARE A NEW CREATION BECAUSE OF YOUR SECOND BIRTH BUT YOU HAD TO HAVE A FIRST BIRTH IN ORDER TO DIE AND BEING BORN AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING WE HAVE IN YOU‼” – I’ve made some changes just to make the text meaningful because it was written in SMS slang.</p>
<p>Now there are many who after hearing such nonsense would still expect that I should keep quiet about such heresies or sweep them simply under the carpet. Being a professional theologian and a Bible teacher over ten year I find this absolutely as a matter of serious concern. I have been reading my Bible since I can remember reading and never at one occasion was I tempted to have such a ridiculous view about Christ my God. Now for the sake of many who are out there who don’t know the truth; How can I keep quiet when the church of Christ is at stake? Tell me a better way to remain calm without breaking forth in a war when the people for whom Christ died should be indoctrinated with such nonsense? Should I choose ecumenicalism over Scripture’s clear doctrines and let my conscience condemn me for not speaking out for those who can’t? Curse be my own soul and may I be cut off from the people of God if I see such error progressing but sit back doing nothing.</p>
<p>The text sent to me is clearly truth mixed with great amounts of poison and soon we will begin seeing the manifestation of such poisonous doctrines. The woman that sent me the text is a great fan of superstar Nigerian TV preacher Chris Oyakilome – he teaches such nonsense to his followers. Many who follow after this man are caught up by his rhetoric speeches and their ignorance buys into everything he says without evaluating it with Scripture. Other prominent Word of Faith teachers such as Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn and others also do teach that Jesus became born again. Hinn taught that “Have you been begotten? So is He. Don’t let anyone deceive you. Jesus was reborn” [Our Position in Christ – Part I, 1991 – Videotape #TV-254].</p>
<p>This doctrine springs from a wrong interpretation of Colossians 1:18 [ESV] “And he is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent.” It is surely a serious error to think that this verse and some others refer to some kind of spiritual rebirth of Christ. If these men can twist such clear Scriptures how can any other of their interpretations be trusted? Regeneration is something needed for sinful man who have died spiritually because of their sins. As for Christ Scripture teaches that He was without sin – how can a sinless person be born again? He carried the sins of the world yet without His nature being contaminated, He bore the sin is not the same as He became a sinner. He died for our sins is not the same as He died because He was sinful – His death was to satisfy the wrath of God concerning sin, not so He should be regenerated for us to experience regeneration. Colossians should be read along with [John 11:25, John 11:26; Acts 26:23; I Cor. 15:20-23; Rev. 1:5, Rev. 1:18]. All these verses testify to the fact that Christ’s resurrection from the dead and never to die again is exemplary of how believers will be resurrected and never to taste death again eternally. Therefore Paul argues that if Christ never rose from the dead then our hope and faith in vain. Christ rose from the dead not as though He were the first of persons to experience a return from death – but rather that He is the first to experience the kind of resurrection that awaits those who believe in God. For all who were resurrected in the Bible surely died but all who died in Christ will at the sound of the trumpet be resurrected and never to die again just as Christ and be with Him eternally.</p>
<p>The teaching of a born again Jesus is not Scriptural but rather an insult at the Person of God i.e. it is blasphemy to say God needed to be born again. Oh how we now need to heed to the warning of Jesus that: “And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many…And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many…For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect” [Matthew 24:4-5,11,24, KJV]. Surely as for false teachers and preacher are many in the Word of Faith movement of whom many are TV preachers.</p>
<p>CONCLUSION</p>
<p>Any person who teaches a distorted view of Christ not just the three issues mentioned here cannot be considered to be a true follower of Christ. As with the Word of Faith Movement that is infiltrating many Pentecostal and Charismatic churches, we can be so sure that this movement is not from God because it is God dishonoring in its every minute detail. These teachers have lifted themselves as people who now hear on behalf of their congregations and teach new revelations which are in reality not revelation from God but of their own minds. Oh, how wish to see the death of this heretic movement and its falsehood to be exposed everywhere where the true children of God are gathered. As long as God grants me the grace to live, I will fight this one movement for I’ve seen and experienced its devastating effects on people. Its deceit, falsehood, tyranny, spiritual blindness, God dishonoring doctrines, humanism, and prevailing worldliness because it is separated from the true teachings of Scripture.</p>
<p>How I desire for you dear reader that you’ll find the true Christ as revealed in Scripture and turn away from the Jesus that these false teachers have created to suit their own context. May God in His mercy open the eyes of your understanding that you’ll see Christ the Son of God not another Christ as according to the spurious preachers of the Word of Faith Movement.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Damon Whitsell</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[SEE PART 1 HERE As the spring turned into the summer of 1990, I continued to ponder what precisely was accurate about charismatic teaching. I had, however, noticed a trend: charismatics were every bit as PC as everybody else, only they thought they weren&#8217;t. Three issues still occupied my mind: Word-Faith views, the lordship controversy, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=how2becomeachristian.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4381259&amp;post=2748&amp;subd=how2becomeachristian&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>As the spring turned into the summer of 1990, I continued to ponder what precisely was accurate about charismatic teaching. I had, however, noticed a trend: charismatics were every bit as PC as everybody else, only they thought they weren&#8217;t. Three issues still occupied my mind: Word-Faith views, the lordship controversy, and eternal security. I was torn on the first, settled strongly on the second, and somewhat settled on the third, having traded in my more Pelagian colors for semi-Calvinistic threads.</p>
<p>I mentioned earlier that I read MacArthur&#8217;s book regarding the lordship controversy. In the spring of 1990, his radio show began airing on our local AM station. The broader-reaching FM station added him in the fall, and now it was possible to hear John preach without that interference noise I get when listening to the Cincinnati Reds on WCKY when I&#8217;m in Omaha. Because of Mac&#8217;s book, I got on his mailing list, which became important when I began receiving his ministry&#8217;s magazine, &#8220;Masterpiece.&#8221; It was quite the glossy little thing, complete with articles, items for sale, and book reviews. In the first one I got, the book reviewed a new tome called &#8220;The Agony of Deceit.&#8221; This was a polemic written by about a dozen authors criticizing the Faith movement (for the most part). The review was mostly positive, with two negatives: 1) it noted that everyone criticized in the book was a charismatic; and 2) it felt the book was too overly negative and implied that no televangelist had ever succeeded without appealing to common desires.</p>
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<p>I would go to the local Christian bookstore and scan a few chapters. Some I agreed with, but a lot of it seemed strained. And what exactly WAS &#8216;Reformation theolgy&#8217; anyway? Most of the authors seemed a little too &#8216;high church&#8217; for me. And some of it seemed also to be argumentation designed for the scholar, not the man in the pew. Some of it was bad, but was the cure worse than the disease? I finally bought it, read it, and I understood SOME of it.</p>
<p>And then the &#8216;slain in the spirit&#8217; phenomena began to bug me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d seen this a few times, but what was it. I kept hearing it referenced, but what was it? I heard a local Pentecostal preacher talk about it on radio, so I called his church. The secretary was kind and recommended a book by &#8211; are you ready for it? &#8211; Kenneth Hagin. She said the name of the book was &#8220;Slain In The Spirit.&#8221; I told Michelle, she told her uncle, and Christmas Eve I was given (not as a Christmas gift) Hagin&#8217;s little pamphlet, &#8220;Why Do People Fall Under The Power?&#8221; So I read it.</p>
<p>And for the first time my eyes REALLY opened.</p>
<p>I noticed something quite amazing as I read &#8211; EVERY SINGLE EXAMPLE Hagin gave of someone who was &#8216;slain in the spirit&#8217; was an UNBELIEVER. Hmm. The validity of the phenomenon, of course, was assumed. And Hagin told many of his greatest stories, like the girl who danced in mid-air off the end of an altar a few feet off the ground. It was getting so thick that I was going to have to pull my boots up.</p>
<p>What now?</p>
<p>Well, my Word-Faith views had never totally crystallized into full-blown WOF theology other than a brief moment in January 1990. I was now skeptical but not openly hostile to it. Yet I noticed that Hagin often made his point at the expense of the text itself. Over the next 18 months or so &#8211; from January 1991 to July 1992 &#8211; my views gradually transformed into something representing a quasi-Calvinism.</p>
<p>And then I took a trip to Mardel in Wichita Falls, Texas.﻿</p>
<p>I actually had one spare afternoon. I think it was a Friday. I know it was in July of 1992. I had decided to read one of a couple of works I&#8217;d heard referenced about the Faith movement. I found Dave Hunt&#8217;s book, &#8220;The Seduction of Christianity.&#8221; Right next to it, however, was work I&#8217;d never heard of: &#8220;A Different Gospel&#8221; by D.R. McConnel. I picked it up and sat down.</p>
<p>A few pages into the book I saw something that absolutely stunned me &#8211; documentation of massive plagiarism of E.W. Kenyon by Kenneth Hagin, self-proclaimed prophet of God. Merely reading it was mind-boggling. I was going to have to investigate this a little further. So I had to buy the book.</p>
<p>Incredible. Absolutely incredible. Page after page of plagiarism, refutation &#8211; and all by a professing charismatic who had graduated from a charismatic school, Oral Roberts University. It was &#8211; to put it mildly &#8211; stunning.</p>
<p>I read and re-read and re-read the chapters on doctrine. Incredible. Even the biographical information given on Hagin was more than anyone else had given up to that time. The only part that bothered me just a little bit was that it seemed to me that McConnell really stretched his point on the historical issue of where exactly the Faith movement&#8217;s roots were. After all&#8230;.I knew charismatics who would defend Word-Faith doctrines to varying degrees but who would distance themselves in a heartbeat from the born again Jesus. This was all so confusing. Yet I&#8217;d heard a lot of Hagin&#8217;s jargon even in charismatic circles.</p>
<p>So what was the truth?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Damon Whitsell</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understood the gospel call on November 30, 1987. I was raised a Southern Baptist but never before had the truth of God penetrated my heart. It is unfortunate, however, that the SBC&#8217;s emphasis on getting everybody saved &#8211; to the exclusion of everything else &#8211; led to a stunted upbringing in theological education. Nor [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=how2becomeachristian.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4381259&amp;post=443&amp;subd=how2becomeachristian&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understood the gospel call on November 30, 1987. I was raised a Southern Baptist but never before had the truth of God penetrated my heart. It is unfortunate, however, that the SBC&#8217;s emphasis on getting everybody saved &#8211; to the exclusion of everything else &#8211; led to a stunted upbringing in theological education. Nor was anything about personal relationship really discussed. The emphasis was on believe. In all seriousness, it sounded like Zane Hodges was the source of all things SBC back in the 1980s. That is not to libel him but to simply give you a point of reference.</p>
<p>Upon salvation I turned my back upon everything I&#8217;d ever been told. If I couldn&#8217;t find it in the Bible, it wasn&#8217;t true. Immediately, I rejected eternal security &#8211; quite viciously, actually. I knew only two things from the ten years I&#8217;d spent in the Baptist church. I needed to believe to be saved, and I could never lose it no matter what I did afterward. A decade in church and that&#8217;s ALL I ever learned doctrinally. Well, I did learn that Jesus said, &#8220;Thou shalt not drink&#8221; and gave a whole list of behavioral requirements to get into Heaven. I also learned that you couldn&#8217;t work your way to heaven and yet they&#8217;d shame you into doing work at church as if you were the unfaithful servant who buried his gift.</p>
<p><span id="more-443"></span>About 12 weeks into my new Christianity, I got very sick with a combination of exhaustion and the flu. I was run down. We were at a choir festival in Jackson, MS when I came down sick. So the choir director sent me in the company of a nursing student (who happened to be one of my best friends) back at the hotel. The student explained about Christ was like an &#8216;invisible&#8217; friend and emphasized relationship. That sickness, which some bed rest and cough medicine helped me overcome, turned out to be important in my walk.<br />
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Over the course of the next year, I pursued biblical truth with a vengeance. I didn&#8217;t even know what a commentary was. I didn&#8217;t know they made Bibles with study notes, either. It was just me and my KJV &#8211; it didn&#8217;t even have a concordance, but it was large-print. This language barrier caused me to make some funny mistakes but grow.</p>
<p>Then in my sophomore year of college, I began to wonder something tha made no sense. How was it that Jesus and the apostles did every day miracles, but I never saw any at my church? I began to believe God could do the miraculous and even &#8216;for&#8217; the miraculous. And shortly thereafter I met the gal I would later marry. And that&#8217;s where it all took a strange turn.</p>
<p>She had come out of dating a Satan worshipper. She therefore had a lot of experience with demonic possession occurences, so our searches combined together into a more supernatural Christianity. It also just so happened that her uncle (I call him &#8216;mine&#8217; because we&#8217;re family, but genetically it&#8217;s hers) was on staff at Kenneth Hagin&#8217;s ministry &#8211; not that I knew this at the time or even what that meant. In the summer of 1989, she took a missionary trip to Mexico where she claims to have seen sight literally restored to the blind. (How she &#8216;really&#8217; knew whoever was blind, of course, is a question best left unpursued). Nevertheless, they had a successful trip.</p>
<p>So she comes back doing the tongues thing, which I didn&#8217;t understand. I wasn&#8217;t &#8216;for&#8217; it and I wasn&#8217;t &#8216;against&#8217; it. I didn&#8217;t know what I was about it to tell you the truth.</p>
<p>Then on my 20th birthday, we had a great day together. She gave me a new gift &#8211; small, of course &#8211; about every two hours throughout the day. One of the last things she gave me was two little booklets from her Rhema uncle. One was &#8220;Why Tongues&#8221; by Kenneth Hagin and the other was &#8220;God&#8217;s Creative Power Will Work For You&#8221; by Charles Capps. I got home about 11 pm that night and decided to read them before I hit the hay.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t overly discerning at the time. I read Capps&#8217; book, and I didn&#8217;t have any real problems with it at the time. I truly believed him when he said God had spoken audibly to him. Made sense, didn&#8217;t it? Didn&#8217;t God speak audibly about Jesus in the river Jordan? So Capps&#8217; book was OK. Then I read Hagin&#8217;s book &#8211; and it was the most arrogant, condescending, and self-glorifying book I&#8217;d ever read by a professed Christian (at that time anyway). Hagin gave ten reasons why every believer should speak in tongues. And the focus of the book &#8211; in reality &#8211; was on Kenneth Hagin himself. He told one story of when a relative of his had had an accident/incident where he was pronounced dead. Hagin proceeded to stop the relative and tell a story about where the doctor had pronounced the guy dead and got into an argument with another relative. Hagin attributed the man&#8217;s alleged &#8216;resurrection&#8217; to his own tongue-speaking. And throughout the book it was an ode to the power of Kenneth Hagin&#8217;s tongue talking. If I was undecided before, this book pretty much set me against it. He talked about how he talked in tongues while sitting in the barber chair while other guys were telling dirty jokes &#8211; which, again, seemed to be a case of &#8220;I&#8217;m better than these folks.&#8221;</p>
<p>I talked to the gal the next day and while we had some minor issues from the day before, the problem arose when she asked me what I thought of the book. I proceeded to issue the first declaration against anyone I ever had at my less than 2-year mark in Christianity: &#8220;That Kenneth Hagin guy is a false prophet. He&#8217;s nuts.&#8221; I didn&#8217;t know, of course, Unca Dunca (not his real name) was on staff or that Michelle herself had been to Rhema in the summer of 1986 and was planning to go to school there (or at &#8216;Christ for the Nations&#8217;). So it hit her like a ton of bricks, and we had our first real conflict. What&#8217;s ironic is that I approached the tongues issue as objectively as reasonably could be expected. I wasn&#8217;t pro, I wasn&#8217;t con. I honestly didn&#8217;t know because I&#8217;d never heard the subject taught &#8211; at all.</p>
<p>The next month I had my own &#8216;charismatic experience&#8217; and came down on the pro-Pentecostal side (for the most part). I still rejected &#8211; and have always rejected &#8211; the P/C teaching that every believer CAN speak in tongues. Such is based not only on flawed exegesis but even upon a text of questionable authenticity. But I was pretty much pro-tongues. At the same time, I got into a separate war in the local newspaper. With the Church of Christ.</p>
<p>In the fall of 1989, three theological tracks ran through and intersected my world. The first was covered in the tongues issue. The other two overlapped each other. The second one was the relationship of salvation to discpleship. The previous year my father (not even a Christian) had bought a book entitled &#8220;The Gospel According To Jesus&#8221; by John MacArthur. Mac took a couple of folks &#8211; Zane Hodges and Charles Ryrie, in particular &#8211; to task over the issue of salvation. I came out of that book with a better perspective as well as a belief in eternal security. It was this last that was one of my many contentions with the <a href="http://www.eastcolumbuschurch.com/" target="_blank">East Columbus Church of Christ.</a> Along with baptism, miracles, and several other issues.</p>
<p>In the fall of 1989, they published a series of articles in our local paper. I read them. I disagreed with some points and agreed with other ones. It was not so much the position as the attitude that I didn&#8217;t care for. Basically, I was lost if I was doctrinally incorrect on any point. In February 1990, I wrote a letter that carried on a public feud for a few months. Eventually, I decided to simply stop responding. In fact, I contacted the Church of Christ and had them send me their materials for closer reading. And the next year (2/91) I actually met the guy who wrote the articles in such a strong tone when he was a substitute teacher at the same school where I was doing my student teaching semester. I was impressed that he was very nice &#8211; and yes, he remembered me. He was not, however, overly combative, and we had a couple of nice conversations between classes. So nice, in fact, that I actually did visit his church one Sunday night. I realize I was probably considered the lost prodigal, but so be it.</p>
<p>Meanwhile &#8211; in another arena &#8211; a theological tug-of-war began to occur.</p>
<p>In January 1990, my future bride brought a set of the 1987 Winter Bible Seminar tapes that Hagin had preached on spiritual gifts for us to listen to. Although we didn&#8217;t listen to any right then, I kept the tapes in my car and began to listen to them in the car tape deck. At this point, I always just assumed that no preacher worth his salt would lie about stuff. They might be wrong but it was a difference of perspective, not malicious intent. I devoured Hagin&#8217;s tapes, listening to a couple a day. This was great. This filled in all those blanks in the Bible like &#8220;What exactly is the gift of the word of wisdom and how does it work?&#8221; After all, does the Bible ever really tell us? No. But he was so enlightened and so experienced. But then came the turning point.</p>
<p>One evening I was listening to one of his tapes &#8211; I think it was number 1 of 2 messages &#8211; on the gift of the word of knowledge. All of Hagin&#8217;s sermons were the same. About five minutes reading the text and inserting words and about 70 minutes of stories, all of which began, &#8220;I was holding a meeting in (name of city) in the month of (fill in) in the year of nineteen hundred and (fill in the year)&#8230;&#8221; and continue with his stories. It did not dawn on me right away that what he was actually doing was simply quoting a Bible passage and then telling the story ASSUMING that his experience was what validated the Scripture. No, I was listening and soaking it up.</p>
<p>The tape was towards the end of side two. Hagin was talking about how he had manifested the &#8216;word of knowledge&#8217; in his ministry more than any other gift. The gift he described, however, sure sounded an awful lot like fortune-telling to me. It sounded like something out of <a href="http://www.city-data.com/forum/attachments/los-angeles/33999d1231729282-gimme-break-4-5-breaking-news-miss_cleo.jpg" target="_blank">Miss Cleo</a>. Still, I wanted to give the man the benefit of the doubt. So he told his own stories and then he told stories of times where the apostles or others had manifest the &#8216;gift of the word of knowledge.&#8217; I was fine until about four minutes before the sermon ended.</p>
<p>Sounding rather laid back, Hagin mentioned he was going to another example of using the word of knowledge. He proceeded to inform me that in John 4, Jesus Christ Himself used &#8216;the word of knowledge&#8217; to demonstrate information about the Samaritan woman and her five husbands. Do what? Hagin dealt with the rather obvious objection: he said that &#8216;yes,&#8217; Jesus was the Son of God but He didn&#8217;t minister as the &#8216;Son of God,&#8217; but only as a man.</p>
<p>This sounded INCREDIBLY CLOSE to the I John 4:1-3 definition of a false teacher to me. I backed it up and listened again just to make sure I hadn&#8217;t missed something. Sure enough, he said it. But how then does one handle the &#8216;Jesus is God&#8217; teaching here? But this was more problematic from another aspect: if this is TRUE then it means that in ministry Jesus was INFERIOR to every man who ever ministered &#8211; because Jesus never spoke in tongues. So we now have Jesus really no better off than any other man to the point that any man on the planet could have functioned as man&#8217;s Redeemer and the entire Incarnation was pointless.</p>
<p>That would have been bad enough except that two other things occurred at the same time. The first was that I attended the service at my wife&#8217;s WOF church and heard the born again Jesus taught that same week. And if you think about it, it makes perfect sense.</p>
<p>If Jesus was really not God but only ministered as God &#8211; then He was capable of failure. And when that old preacher told it about how God was on the outside looking in and GOD NEEDED MAN&#8217;S HELP to pull of the Redemption &#8211; when that happened then the charcoal lighter was all over the coals. The match was lit when in the same tape series I get Hagin speculating about the limits of Jesus&#8217; ministry.</p>
<p>On side one of one of the other tapes, Hagin said that he had a theory that he couldn&#8217;t prove but nobody could disprove (say what?). Hagin&#8217;s theory was that while Jesus as a man anointed by the Spirit had that Spirit without measure, He was still the Son of God. However, since Hagin taught that the &#8216;body of Christ&#8217; is &#8216;Christ&#8217; &#8211; he joined those ideas together and concocted the theory that the BODY OF CHRIST (the church) as a WHOLE is as unlimited in ministry capacity as Jesus was. He admitted over and over that he couldn&#8217;t prove it and we should go by &#8216;the Word&#8217; &#8211; but by the end of the sermon Hagin was now subtly shifting to his FACT (rather than theory) that the church of Christ is as unlimited in minstry as Jesus.</p>
<p>It now began to dawn on me &#8211; about one year into this thing &#8211; that his preaching was little more than a bunch of stories, all of which always had him as the hero. On another tape he told a story of a guy during the Depression who woke up in the middle of the night praying, &#8220;Lord, stir me.&#8221; And when this happened he &#8216;got over in the devil&#8217;s territory&#8217; and lost his business and went on WPA and was broke. But then he spoke in tongues and got his stuff back. A little while later the same thing happened &#8211; he woke up asking God to stir him, he got into the devil&#8217;s territory &#8211; and lost it all again. The third time he woke up and said, &#8220;Lord, stir&#8230;never mind, Lord, I&#8217;ll just stir myself up.&#8221; Hagin then went on to say that he was busy stirring Himself up &#8211; God wasn&#8217;t even involved with it at the time. God got involved later, Hagin said, but he has just stirred his-self up. In essence, Hagin&#8217;s tale presented the story of a man who wanted to intercede and begged God to help him and messed up &#8211; and a man who didn&#8217;t even need God to pull it off but, praise God, the man was able to let the Lord have just a little bit of credit there at the end of it.</p>
<p>I was getting angry now when I listened to this guy&#8217;s tapes. All he kept talking about was himself. In this guy&#8217;s stories, he was basically a modern-day Jesus.</p>
<p>I wonder what the girlfriend is going to say when I tell her this guy&#8217;s nuts? Especially since I only recently learned her uncle works for the man.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Damon Whitsell</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This then is how Jesus spoke of hell.  Jesus said that&#8230; hell and fire go together as &#8220;hell fire&#8221; Matt 5:22, 18:9, Mark 9:47 hell is a place of &#8220;fire&#8221; Matt 7:19, 13:40, 25:41 hell is the &#8220;furnace of fire&#8221; Matt 13:42, 50 hell is &#8220;the fire that never shall be quenched&#8221; Mark 9:43, 45 hell [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=how2becomeachristian.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4381259&amp;post=441&amp;subd=how2becomeachristian&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">This then is how Jesus spoke of hell.  Jesus said that&#8230;</span></strong></p>
<p>hell and fire go together as &#8220;hell fire&#8221; Matt 5:22, 18:9, Mark 9:47<br />
hell is a place of &#8220;fire&#8221; Matt 7:19, 13:40, 25:41<br />
hell is the &#8220;furnace of fire&#8221; Matt 13:42, 50<br />
hell is &#8220;the fire that never shall be quenched&#8221; Mark 9:43, 45<br />
hell is the place where &#8220;the fire is not quenched&#8221; Mark 9:44, 46, 48<br />
hell is a place of &#8220;everlasting fire&#8221; Matt 18:8, 25:41<br />
hell is &#8220;damnation&#8221; Matt 23:14, Mark 12:40, Luke 20:47<br />
hell is the &#8220;damnation of hell&#8221; Matt 23:33<br />
hell is the place of &#8220;eternal damnation&#8221; Mark 3:29<br />
hell is the &#8220;resurrection of damnation&#8221; John 5:29<br />
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